Pamela Hemphill Previous On January 6, 2021, when she attacked the National Assembly with thousands of other rebels, she held a huge plastic firearm and posted her photo on Facebook in the living room. “happy new year!” Read the post. “On the way to Washington DC on January 6th!”
After arriving there, Hemphill wandered the hall of the parliamentary party armed with a selfie stick, according to the court of the Federal Research Bureau, which included steel in the surveillance video.
Eight months later, the law enforcement official arrested Hem Prille in Ida Ho Boys. In January 2022, she was convicted of violent position and disorder in the National Assembly’s House, and soon after she was sentenced to two months in prison in FCI Dublin in California, three years of protection and observation $ 500 is fine.
Today’s 71 -year -old Hempil does not recognize her rebels. “My dream is to meet the parliamentary police. She was so surprised at the past behavior. In fact, she refused to pardon Trump Trump on Monday. Back to weapons or parliamentary party. (It is still unclear whether she can legally reject pardon. Her lawyer refused to mention it on Thursday.)
HEMPHILL compares the decision from the retired drug abuse counselor, who said that it has been cool for more than 40 years, from the pardon to the recovery process. Peace, ”she said to me.
I told Kamala Harris in the last election, and he called Hemphill to discuss Trump’s results as a result of the rebels and crime convictions.
This interview has been condensed and edited lightly.
How did you start at the National Assembly on January 6?
My brother called me and said, “Hey, how do you want to go to Christmas gifts? It will be the last time we can see Trump. ” Two weeks after I started chemotherapy, I had a little window (for breast cancer) and I thought it would be good. I have never been to Washington.
So when you arrived at DC on January 6, did you think the election was stolen in 2020?
I was in the fence. But I would not lie to the country if Rudy Giuliani was there and Trump and all other famous people.
Can you talk about violence that day?
The rebel pushed the barrier. They pushed the officers. They run to the stairs, push me out, step on their heads, pull their shoulders to cut their knees. I couldn’t breathe. Police officers pulled me out and saved my life. I would have died because they were walking everything.
How do you know that some of these people who have violent these police officers are now pardoned and released from prison?
I’m too disgusting. How could they have been released? My words, they are the most dangerous criminals, and many have committed crimes before. I was still too disgusting and too angry. And that’s why I won’t be pardoned. Because it is because the parliamentary police, the ruling of the law and the face of our country are beaten.
Do you know someone who was convicted of what you did on January 6?
No, I want. I keep asking people, journalists, and others. “Who do you know? I hope you can talk to them. ” You feel so lonely. I can’t be the only person.
When you were in jail, did you start to ask questions at the story of January 6?
no. You just want to focus. I was taking an hour at a time.
Sometimes when I was lying on the second floor, I would think of it, but I got too much to say that I was a hero, “You did something great.” And my intuition said, “I don’t think so. I broke the law. ” I will go back and forth with myself.
When I went to see the therapist I’ve been watching for several years-I still suffered from PTSD problems as a child, so he saw me, and he heard my little rejection. He says: You had a choice. You were a volunteer. ” And I was angry and said, “I can never go back and see the therapist.”
I came home that night and was drunk for 45 years and one of the stages of recovery is, “I admit it when you are wrong.” I realized, “Oh, he is right. I made a choice. I am not a victim. ” And it started to turn my thoughts.
Do you think Trump’s pardon is trying to send a message? And do you think he is actually sending?
In my opinion, the message is that DOJ is weapon for him. He is so bad. He needs his small militia on the street. He is sending a message to Doj. This is the best gas lighting campaign I saw.
You use the word “militia”. Are you worried that people released from prison can go with more political violence? Do you think they can move forward?
Everything they can do on January 6th. Nothing has changed. They were not responsible for what they did at all. No one forced them to break the windows or hit them. In fact, it gave them more power. Yes. I’m worried that there will be more violence.
Do you want to accept this forgiveness? Can you legally reject?
According to what I studied, it is.
I told the probation officer. And she thinks she is waiting for the documents. But whatever I have to do to sign what I do, and I will be wrong.
I don’t accept because we’re just innocent in the lie and lie about what happened on January 6th. I do not want to participate in reinstating their history. I broke the law. I know that if you are in jail, it will be difficult to see 10 years, but I am still sure that I will do this. You are not someone else because you have to live with you. I have to live with my believers and my god. So it is right without any other reason.
I have a question. Does the background and recovery as a substance counselor affect the idea of this?
Yes, it’s not just saying, “I’m sorry.” Easy.
Modification means making it correct. You cannot make January 6th correct. But at least, as I try to approach Maga Cult’s confused and lost family, I can say something that can help them go through this. Or maybe a J6er or another criminal can sit, sit, think, and say. “I am wrong that day. We must take responsibility. ”
You never know. We just plant seeds.
Did your beliefs have continued results on the opportunity you pursued after you came out of your life and prison? If so, did it question whether you should pardon?
The result is a matter of my own production. I left myself there. I did not leave. I have to bring that result. I don’t think that everything in life will be fine without doing wrong.
There were some results. I lost social security. 12 years of relationship when I get away from Maga Cult. I lost the counseling license.
Before the attack on that day-Capitol and DC police officer Now they feel betrayal Trump Guy announced forgiveness. Meanwhile, Trump has I insisted He is a “police friend.” What is your reaction to this?
I was so angry. Congress approved plaque for the parliamentary police officers and did not post it. It is the minimum that Korea can do for the parliamentary police.
It is really important now that they are now informed that we are heroes that day, grateful to them and that we are behind us that we are behind us.
Trump is not a friend. He is his owner. He is a dangerous selfistist.
He always plays both sides. You never know what he will do and he lies about everything.
What is your message from Trump and others who are convicted of being comforted by this forgiveness?
It’s hard to say to Trump. Because he doesn’t say anything.
Because I was honest with myself, I sleep well at night. I have peace of mind. I did not like to do it. I wanted to maintain the victim. When I realized that Trump was a cult leader, I went through a lot of last year and a half. If you know that you are wrong, don’t think it will be easy because it is not easy. But you will feel good personally, inside.